Intro: [00:00:00] Hello and welcome to the Posers podcast, the place where we skip the fluff. Say the quiet parts out loud and dig into what really matters. This is where photography, psychology, and business collide. I'm Jody, your host, and I'm bringing you my raw takes, hard wins, and a whole lot of unfiltered honesty about what it takes to build a photography business that actually connects and makes money.
So ladies, grab your headphones and get your tits up and your ears open because we are going to build something really incredible together.
Hello, hello, hello and welcome back my beautiful posers to yet another episode of the Posers podcast. I have to start off this episode by apologizing in advance because I woke up very early this morning and went, I mean, I work, I wake up and go for a walk with my husband almost every single morning, but this [00:01:00] morning.
I've gained, I've gained a little bit of weight because my husband moved in and we are very much so in the throes of basically like comfort and honeymoon season and ordering in and laying on a couch and snuggling and all the things. And that has done a number on my waistline. And this morning whenever we got up and we were going out for the walk, I told my husband that I wanted to run this hill that is over by our house.
And he runs it usually on the days that I don't get up and walk with him. But I have to apologize because I ran. This hill four times this morning and it was very cold out and now I have this huge, like, I don't know that, just that feeling in your chest whenever you feel like you have to clear your throat and you have like gunk and you're just, I'm not sick, I don't have any gunk.
That's a horrible word to use. Also, I'm so sorry for using the word gunk on a podcast. [00:02:00] I don't ha, I'm not sick at all. I just have that like wheezy feeling in my chest from running in the cold. And also, I'm not a runner, so it was very difficult and I ran four of them because of course my competitive.
Was like thinking that I can keep up with him and he does it often. Did I keep up with him? Yes, I sure as hell did. Okay. So anyways, I have to apologize for just the raspy like throat clearing. That might need to happen. Do you hear it? Even whenever I laugh it's just, ugh. I'm so sorry. Okay, we are here on, I think the third.
It might be, I know that we were talking about three levers. Of the $200,000 challenge that had to be pulled in order to hit that $200,000 goal. But I'm pretty sure that there was a fourth episode. So [00:03:00] even though this is like the third lever and like the final installment of us talking about the $200,000 challenge, I think that there's four podcasts that go along with it, including today's.
So if you haven't listened to the previous three episodes, please hit pause on me right now and then come back after you've listened to those three. We started talking about the three levers that had to get pulled inside of my business in order to make this goal happen. And the first one being the launch system that booked out 40.
Full shoots in an 18 hour span on August 1st, and that booked out my whole entire fall, and that is how I run. All of the bookings inside of my business. I do not know. SEO, I do not know Google. I do not write blogs. I do not run ads. I do not do anything else except for this launch system that books out basically my whole entire year with two launches.
[00:04:00] So we went over that and then we moved into talking about my client. Experience and bringing on a stylist this year and what that did to really uplevel the game and leave No question. That luxury level effort is not only what we're putting in over here at JN Photography, but also it is what we are expecting back from our clients.
And now today we're talking about the. Final lever in the system, which is the sales room because I know that I have to hit a higher average this fall if I'm going to make my $200,000 challenge. Also, if you don't know how to sell all of the beautiful marketing and all of the client experience that you have built inside of your business is really just, it's really expensive foreplay.
Okay. That leaves [00:05:00] everybody a little bit blue balled, if I'm being honest, because those things can really like bring your business up into that luxury level that you want it to be in. But it will all just leave it hanging there if you bomb inside of the sales room. But before we dive in, let's also talk about one way that I make sure, especially this time of year, I make sure that I am leaving no crumbs on the table.
Of course, during the holidays, because this is our biggest money making time of the year, and you cannot forget about those shoots. That you did way back in January, February, March, all of those, if you stay focused on only the shoots that are happening this fall, then you're only going to collect up what you [00:06:00] can collect during the sales meetings.
And if you are going to leave no crumbs then. You need to have a system in place that will still be marketing to those shoots that you did way back in, say March or so. And if you don't, then they are going to dry up and die. Okay. So you know how the holiday is kind of like. Sneak up every single year and suddenly every photographer like November 1st hits and then there's this panic of, oh shit, we have to figure out a Black Friday sale and or even the week before Black Friday.
And you're like, oh God, damnit. Like, we're supposed to have that already done. Right. And like putting it together, knowing. How to run it, how to promote it. And then really the thing that I hear from people is that [00:07:00] you don't wanna feel like you're bugging people. You don't wanna be in people's inboxes too much.
You don't wanna pester them. You don't wanna be one of those other emails that are in their inbox on Black Friday. Well, I'm here to tell you that you don't have to anymore because. I went like full blown Santa mode and literally built out an entire Black Friday campaign for you. And I did it by working directly with my team over at Pass.
And they are going to get you eight pre-written emails. They're gonna get you Instagram story templates. They're gonna get you. Sales calendar so that you know exactly when to post. And even like gallery banners with countdown timers, because I was talking to them about really having to make sure that you have that sense of urgency inside of your galleries, [00:08:00] which is such a huge psychological tool that you need to be using.
And this is all basically like bundled up to make your brand look. So clean, so effortless, and more importantly, professional because you know that I am always harping on the authority piece of your marketing. So your clients are gonna feel like all of the elves inside of your business are working over time for them, when really like you're not even having to lift a finger.
So the holidays are easily. The most profitable time of year for photographers and with my past gallery, I will usually make an extra like two to $3,000 from my print store just during the holidays alone. And I don't do a single thing except for Tell Pass that I want them to run my campaigns. You'll get.
Two months free. Whenever you use my link in the show notes and they personalize [00:09:00] everything for you from your store design, your pricing, your promotions, or if you don't know what you want any of that to look like, you can literally just get on a call with them whenever they do your audit. For free, you can just tell them to set it up exactly like mine and all that you do is collect the cash coming up in this holiday season.
So instead of spending hours trying to like build out Canva graphics and writing sales copy that you have no idea when or how to send out, just outsource this part to somebody who can do it better. Then you could ever do it anyways. And all the while it's done so well that you're just gonna come off looking like a bad bitch photographer who has her shit together, right?
You have to also get this completed within the next week if you want to capitalize on Black Friday at all. So. Go in the show notes, [00:10:00] grab the link, set it up, collect that money, honey. Also, I know I've mentioned this before, but Pass does this to where they will do this audit call with you.
They will build your shop for you. They will implement everything for you. They do your marketing for you. They literally make you money. It is the only. Form of passive income that I actually have inside of my business, but they do it for you with a money back guarantee. So really like there is no reason for you not to do this.
Because even if you jump into the show notes, get my link, you get two months free with my link and then. They go in and they start running these campaigns for you. If they don't make you the money, that they guarantee that they will make you get your money back. So literally like there is no skin in the game for you.
There's no skin off of your teeth. To set this up, [00:11:00] why? I'm just realizing this. Why do we only talk about skin? Whenever we're talking about there, like not being any kind of risk, I don't know. It's very Eden of us. When am I gonna, okay. It's, it's Halloween today when I'm recording this, so I'm gonna make.
An actual promise to you that, uh, beings that today is Halloween. I'm never gonna mention Ed Geen again. Okay. That's so not true. You already know that's so not true. Okay. All right. All right. All right. Let's get into it. Here's the truth. And it's a truth that nobody really talks about all that much. You can have the prettiest brand, you can have the most emotionally intelligent client experience.
You can have the most viral marketing. In the world. But if you choke in the sales room, you are cooked. [00:12:00] You have already lost the game before you ever even sit down. If you flinch inside of the sales room, uh, you cannot walk into that room as a photographer. You have to walk in and you have to own the room as you have to own the room.
Like as someone who really understands. Behavior and emotion and influence, and I get it that this is one of the things, if not the biggest thing that stops photographers from running IPS because sales seems so incredibly scary, and I hear this all the time, and so. Instead of doing the scary thing, a lot of you will implement a collections based system, or you will introduce the idea that you know, you do the [00:13:00] shoot for.
Set amount and they get, say, 10 digital files included with that amount. And then if they want to have all of the files from the shoot, then they can pay an additional fee and then get the all of the photos and. There, there's this trick that you're playing inside of your head of like, oh, okay, well see.
I'm making more money than I would have because they're doing the gallery upgrade. But my love, that is not sales. That is definitely not in-person sales, and you are one. A hundred percent shooting yourself in the foot, you are capping your income. You are doing yourself such a disservice by thinking that this in between mode.
Is actually serving you. Okay. Now one of the threads that actually [00:14:00] ties me and my husband together on the geekiest level is the sales room. While. Most people, or most couples probably talk about like dinner plans and home projects and, you know, whatever the kids did that day. And like granted, we talk about all of that too, but the morning walks that we take together are usually spent breaking down.
Like closing tactics or the sales process in general. My husband has led global sales teams in regards to selling like office space in the car sales. Space in audio branding. And now whenever he just moved to Las Vegas, he switched and he is doing medical and dental implant sales. So these are three totally four.[00:15:00]
Totally different industries. Add photography into that mix. We've got five totally different industries, but the sales process is exactly the same no matter what you're selling. And that's what I want you to hear today is that the product might change, but the psychology of sales. Never does. The way that humans make buying decisions is universal, and once you learn it, your entire business changes.
But before we even talk about scripts or slideshows or pricing, I wanna talk about your relationship with money. And I used to have a crazy. Messed up relationship with money. I still do sometimes. And honestly I think that a lot of us do, but my childhood was kind of [00:16:00] whack. Okay. I already told you that I was like a feral animal running across the farm, playing doctor to lizards and building tree forts and all of that.
But what you should also know is that. The farm, it was actually my grandmother's, and we had to live with her because my parents had four babies by the time they were 22. My oldest sister was born whenever they were, I think 17, and I'm the youngest. And so in between being 17 to 22, my mom gave birth to actually.
Five babies, but she lost one of them. So I am her fourth living baby. We were dirt poor like whenever I was little before we ever even moved to my grandmother's farm. We were dirt poor living in a trailer. For the longest time that was right next to my grandmother's property. And then [00:17:00] living in a really rundown house that was on my grandpa's property for, he had a crane business and there was a house on the back of like the crane business's property.
And we lived there for the longest time too. I'm talking, we were. Dirt poor. Obviously like my parents are incredible humans, but they were babies themselves and they had four kids to feed. It was very normal to have like our cable or our electricity cut off. Like every month or so. I remember growing up and hearing my mom scream at the utility companies all the time, and both of my parents worked multiple jobs to keep food on the table when I was in middle school.
I think. Yeah, like um, seventh and eighth grade. Uh, both of my parents had paper routes and then whenever my sister, my oldest sister, was able to [00:18:00] drive, then all six of us were, we were waking up at two 30 in the morning to roll and deliver newspapers every single morning. My dad would drive one route, my mom would drive another route, and my oldest sister drove a third route, and then the three.
Like leftover kids, my other sister, my brother and myself, we jumped in the car with one of them and helped them on their routes. And you always sidebar, you always knew that if you went in my sister's car that you were going to get left in the car for God knows how long while she snuck into her boyfriend's bedroom before the sun came up and before my parents were expecting us home after we were done running the Vapor house.
I hope my parents are listening to this and that my sister gets in trouble for doing that to me, whenever I was. Just a, just a wee little teenager. It was, it was a wild ride my childhood, [00:19:00] and I know for a fact that my drive and my ambition. For a different kind of life was birthed during those years.
Money blocks breed inside of our childhood. They are inside of our traumas. They are inside of the darkest parts of the of us. And if you don't fix that, then your business it, it will not move it, it will not work if you don't fix those money blocks and really. Be able to say large numbers to your clients or demand the worth even if you're not running.
IPS say, even if you're running a shoot and burn kind of model and you need to be charging $2,500 for a family session, just to be able to tap into like. Any inkling of what you're actually worth, like being able to [00:20:00] say that number, like you're not going to be able to do it until you work through those money blocks.
So listening to this today, like it might feel uncomfortable imagining yourself. This confident in the sales room is going to be something that you throw up like a kneejerk reaction to as you listen. And that's going to sound like, you know, you inside of your head saying like, mm, let's skip this podcast.
This isn't me. Or, mm, this wouldn't work with my clients. Or, I would never say that, or I could never say that. And I'm, I just wanna urge you that. When these thoughts run through your head, try your best to at least clock them. Notice them. Notice where your chest tightens. Notice where you get that sick feeling in your stomach.
[00:21:00] Notice when your shoulders go tense. Notice. Whenever you're like, holy shit, Jodi just said that I would be thinking these thoughts and that I can, I can do two things. Two things can be true. I can honor that. This feels uncomfortable. But what I'm also going to honor is that I'm gonna sit here in it.
I'm not going to shut down. I'm not going to hit pause. I'm not gonna move on to the next, I dunno, easy listening murder podcast. That is probably like way. Weirdly more comfortable to hear, okay. Challenge yourself to stay uncomfortable with me right now. Because even though that murder podcast is probably very intriguing, I was gonna say entertaining and that's the wrong word, but intriguing.
Using your time that way is not gonna make you better. So [00:22:00] that little voice that says, stay safe, stay small, stay uninformed. That's your brain trying to protect you from feeling too exposed. And it's also the exact same way that you keep making the same mistakes because everyone wants to be the photographer who's touting that.
She brings in like multiple six figures, but only a few will actually stay uncomfortable enough. To truly build it. I've said this before, the business owner who falls in love with building the business will always outlast the business owner who is only in love with the idea of success. So if you wanna make more sales, you have to fall in love with learning sales, not just making them.
And it starts with your mindset, because the second that you flinch around money. The client feels it. If you pause whenever you [00:23:00] say your price, if you apologize. Oh, like, oh, I'm sorry. I know that. You know, custom framing is really expensive if you apologize before you even finish your sale. That's blood in the water.
You are signaling that you don't even believe in your own number, and if you don't believe it, why should they? Okay. I want you to literally adopt this mantra. I don't ask for money. I collect. What I'm owed. Okay. Say it again In your car. I know you're driving. I don't care. Talk to yourself. Say it out loud.
I don't ask for money. I collect what I'm owed. That's the energy. Money has to become something inside of your life that you associate as. Money is safety. Money is freedom, money is choice. Whoever did the freaking PR for ambition was clearly on the [00:24:00] payroll for the patriarchy because telling women that they shouldn't desire.
More money is pushing a narrative that has always kept women under the thumb of men. It's wrapped up in the greed, pr, right? Greed isn't evil. Greed is ambition. Greed is the ambition that little girls were told to swallow because every dollar. That comes into your business isn't just a paycheck, it is a ripple.
It feeds your family. It fuels the art that you get to create inside of your business. It supports your clients. It shows your kids what is possible. It keeps you from staying in shitty marriages. It buys you. Education when you need it. It keeps your future open to whatever you might choose for it. You absolutely have to reframe the value that you [00:25:00] provide in order to understand how much impact your work has on others, not just emotionally like we're always talking about, right?
Like we as photographers are always saying like that. You know, I talk to my clients a lot about having family photos on the walls inside of their house, like really creates a sense of belonging. It really creates a home life where children feel as though they are loved. They are literally hugged by their walls, right?
I talk about. The psychological research that has been done that says, you know that kids who grow up in a home with family photos on the wall actually have a higher level of self-esteem, right? We talk about the, this emotional side all the time, the emotional value, but I want you to understand it financially too.
I had a client spend $3,000 at her sales meeting for head [00:26:00] shots, for head shots. $3,000. Okay. It was a 30 minute session. She bought 20 digitals, which some people might be like, what could you possibly need 20 headshots for? Right? But after she left the sales meeting, she texted me later and she said, these photos are going to make me $600,000 in my next campaign, $600,000.
For her campaign, because she's in politics, the $3,000 for headshot is not expensive. Whenever you have that kind of reframe in your brain, her ROI on three K is 600 k, and I provide that to her, right? It makes that $3,000 seem. Not all that expensive anymore. Another client that I have is an oral surgeon, and I meet with his team every single year to discuss [00:27:00] exactly what they need from me before we do the shoot because he uses his portraits on his website.
So those images make patients trust him. They make people say yes to choosing him in. See of other oral surgeons. Those photos literally make him money. They support his team and they feed his family, and he knows that, and he knows that he's going to book me because he knows that I'm gonna work with the team to make sure that they have the images that he needs.
All right, so please understand this. You are not selling photos. You're providing the vehicle that supports the livelihood of your clients. And whenever you get that, whenever you feel that you stop flinching and you start walking into pricing conversations with certainty. Because [00:28:00] your clients aren't just buying pictures, they are literally investing.
Into their own websites and their own like businesses that they're building. They're investing into their own future with the photos that they need in order to push that forward for them. Okay. Let's talk about IPSI. PS stands for in-Person Sales. It is the most empowering business model that you can step into as a photographer.
It multiplies your profit without multiplying your hours. It breaks the income ceiling that shoot and burn photographers keep slamming into, and it puts you back in your power seat where creativity and control belong to you and not your inbox. Right? Shoot and burn is like. You're basically building on a hamster wheel, whereas IPS is, you're [00:29:00] actually building an empire.
So, uh, let's break this down exactly what happens inside of my sales room and how I walk out of that sales room with four. $5,000 invoices on the regular without ever feeling salesy or slimy. Alright, let's talk about what happens before. Uh, before, like any client ever even walks into the studio you cannot wing a sales meeting any more than you can just like.
You know, wing it. If you don't know how to use your camera settings, it's the same idea. If you walk in timid or unprepared or without knowing a sales script or hoping that the client is just gonna love the images so much that they're just gonna wanna create all the albums and all the frames and that you're not even gonna have to do anything and they're just gonna hand [00:30:00] over their credit card for a $6,000 sale, then you've.
Already lost control of the room before you're ever even inside of the room. By the time my clients arrive, everything that I want to have done for prep work is ready. The photos are edited, the slideshow is ready. My space here inside of the studio is curated. Drinks are out. The atmosphere is intentional.
It is calm, it is elevated, it feels expensive, but this isn't something that only happens because I have my own studio because this is a block that a lot of people talk to me about. You can create the same atmosphere anywhere. That you are selling. If it's at their home, you can show up prepared. You can know your system like the back of your hand because you've practiced it a million times.
You can bring their favorite Starbucks. You can bring a charcuterie [00:31:00] board, you can bring some muffins. You can set the scene just as much in their home as if you had a studio. You can set the tone no matter if you go to like a coffee shop. If you're going, like you're showing up early if you are ordering their like favorite snack, their favorite coffee, like right there, have it all set up for them you can do the exact same setup, the exact same prep, and be just as intentional inside of your own home or their home or an agreed upon mutual meeting spot.
So do not. Let that mental block stop you at this step, because the moment that they step into that energy, no matter where you're creating it, that's whenever they're already starting to say yes. Now, what is most important in the IPS process is the language that you use, [00:32:00] you cannot ever. Luck your way.
Well, maybe you can, maybe you can luck your way into a sale here or there. But definitely not in a luck kind of way that you can actually sustain your business. You cannot apologize your way into a sale. You cannot be meek. Timid and still think that you're going to land a sale. You cannot fold Every time that a client says you know, that's probably too much for today.
I'm just gonna do like these, like favorite digitals and like let them walk out the door. You have to lead. IPS only works whenever you walk in like it is your. Job, like it is your process. It is your prices, your standards, your rules. So whenever a client asks like, well, can't you just send me the gallery?
The answer is simple. It's going to be light and [00:33:00] it's going to be fun like it always is with me, but the answer is also going to be firm. If somebody was to say to me like, can't you just send me the gallery? Like say they're walking into my studio and they're like, I don't understand why I have to do this.
Like, can't you just send me the gallery? I would probably look at them with a little side eye and I'd be like, yeah, sure I could, but don't be ridiculous. Everybody wants this, right? Like, I would laugh, I would say something like, don't make me Miranda priestly you. Okay. But they would know that my answer is simple, light and fun, but it's also firm.
Like, don't even come at me with that. Like, absolutely not sure I could, but. You know, I wouldn't, okay. You cannot sell luxury while behaving like you're, I don't know, a basement bargain. Okay? Now, when they walk through the door, [00:34:00] you've got to know that that. Is where the magic is going to happen. It's also where the money is going to happen.
So everything about this space has to be curated. Especially the fact that I do not allow any chaos. I do not allow any kids. I do not allow any distractions inside of this space. It's not about just showing photos, it's also about showing them that you are running a very legitimate business and that you're owning the space.
And you're going to create a space where emotion and that ownership collide, and that's what turns photos into investments before they ever see any kind of pricing. In fact, that's probably one of the biggest mistakes that photographers make, is that they start to talk about pricing or that they show them a price list or they slide over, you know, their [00:35:00] collections before they ever.
See a price. You have to first do the work to anchor them emotionally. You are leading them to imagine how these images will live inside of their homes and how they'll feel every time that they walk past them. Because whenever they feel that. Then they'll buy it. That's the biggest secret in the sales room.
The sales room isn't about pushing numbers, it's about guiding decisions. Before you start, you have to get them to tell you. The narrative of how they want these images to live inside of their homes. If you try to preach it to them, they'll feel the sale and they'll put their hackles up right away.
I just had this conversation with my husband. I was literally. In the shower he was getting ready for something in the day we're talking about the sales process 'cause we're geeks like that. [00:36:00] And I was telling him like, Hey, I'm having this situation, like this came up and it's actually an objection that like, I don't know how to roll.
And my husband actually got it wrong in his response to me. He is like, yeah, once you have them in that spot, then there's really like nothing you can do about it. And I was like. I don't know Brian. I I don't think that that's right. And he's like, yeah, well here's how I handle it. And he told me how he would handle it in that situation where he's like starting to talk about value and he is starting to talk about the logistics and he is starting to talk about like all of this sales sort of thing.
And I was like, I don't know. Like that doesn't feel right. That doesn't feel like the play, that doesn't feel. Like how it should get rolled. And I told him, I'm like, if you have to preach it to them, then they're gonna feel that sale and they're gonna put their hackles up right away. And that it's not our job on the sales side to preach value and tell them like, Hey, this is a no brainer.
Hey, why don't you do [00:37:00] this? Or Hey, this is the thing that's gonna like, make this be easier for you. No, like. You have to get them to say it to you. You have to open the door and get them to walk through it on their own. Right? Now, how do you do this? You ask questions and then you shut up and you listen. If you talk more than you listen during your sales meeting, then you are going to lose the sale.
You have to ask like, is there a wall in your house that you don't know what to do with and it bothers you every single day. You stare at it, it angers you, it's ugly. Like is there a space like that that we can fix for you? You have to ask, is there an area. That you guys hang out in the most, you have to ask, how do you think it would feel [00:38:00] if you got to stare at these photos every day?
In that space where you hang out the most, you have to ask, do you think that your kids would like it if they saw this on the walls every day? How do you think. That that would make them feel, you have to ask, what are the goals that you have for these images? How do you wanna enjoy them? How do you want them to be a part of your life?
You cannot inject and tell them or inject like yourself and inject your own. Thoughts and tell them how they'll feel or what this does for them or their kids. I can't sit here and preach and say, oh, you need to have this because this is gonna like make your kids' self-esteem higher and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You have to walk them through the scenarios. That's going to get them to say it to you first, and then you're gonna slide those answers into your back pocket because you'll use that same narrative to close the sale later. [00:39:00] And whenever it comes time to talk money, confidence is everything. So you're go, you're, you're not going to drop these numbers.
With hesitation because you would've already done that legwork to know exactly what their goals are and exactly what they want to do with these images and the dreams that they have of creating this home that's going to feel that way for their kids. So you'll get to that part of when it comes time to talk money, and you won't feel that hesitation and you're not going to feel silence.
With nervous chatter, okay? You're going to sit in that silence and you're going to make them make the decision for themselves. Then you're gonna write down what it costs on their order form, and you're gonna ask them, do you wanna put this on your Amex so that you can get the points? And then you're going to stop talking if you can't sit in that awkward [00:40:00] space.
Then you don't deserve the sale, honestly, because that awkward space of you asking them how they're paying for this, that's where you hold your power and you've already built the trust, you've already built the value, and now they're not. Comparing you to other photographers. They're just trying to make sure that they are following your lead on what your other clients buy inside of that sales room.
And whenever this process feels like it's normal for you, and there's not a glitch and there's not a hiccup, and there's not a like. Okay, this is a lot. Don't freak out as you're telling them the total, then they know that this is just the norm for you and this is just how you run your business. And they better come to the table.
IPS is walking someone through an emotional transaction that they created. You just [00:41:00] guide them to what they are telling you that they want. That's what real sales is. So obviously this is a very condensed version. Obviously there is. So much more to this process that we would never be able to get into on a podcast.
The exact language that you need, the full sales scripts that you need, the emotional sequencing of knowing when to say what, and the whole entire pricing system that makes it all click. That's exactly what is inside of Poser, the Mastermind. You simply take the script that I have already written for you and you memorize that script, and then you get to pull up your Stripe account and you get to swipe their credit card.
The full framework that [00:42:00] changes everything is inside of the Mastermind. And if you wanna chat through it with me, then you can click the link in the show notes and you can schedule a free one-on-one call with me to see if it is in fact the right fit for you. I am taking 30 women. We start in January and I'm only taking 30 women, and I want.
To take these 30 women and I want to absolutely change their businesses and I wanna absolutely change their lives just like we did with the last set of 10 from the beta round. Uh, if you feel like you might be one of my 30, then I would really like to hop on a call with you. So please hop over to the show notes.
Click that link. Get on the call with me and I will promise you this. I will get on the call and we will look at nothing except for the [00:43:00] idea of clarity and what that means for your business. Whether we get to a point that the answer is a clear no or a clear yes, I'm gonna celebrate that with you because that is the most important thing that you need to have in your business, is a clear path of knowing exactly where you're going to invest your money, exactly who you want to invest with, and exactly the type of education that you need in order to get yourself.
To the next level that you are trying to get to. So that is my promise that I will focus only on that clarity one way or the other, a yes or a no, and I will celebrate both ways, just as much. So, yeah, that's all I've got for you today. Uh, I hope that I get to chat with you. I hope that I get to have a one-on-one call with you.
I hope that I get to see you inside of Poser, the [00:44:00] Mastermind. But if I don't, either way, I'm still gonna see you right here next week for the next episode of the Posers podcast. And until then, bye for now. Friends.
Outro: Okay, so that is a wrap on this episode of the Posers Podcast. If you loved it, please subscribe, rate, and review because honestly, algorithms are needier than all of our ex-boyfriends combined. And ladies, I need all the help I can get. If you've got thoughts, questions, love letters, even hate mail, please send them my way.
I actually read every single one of them. So until next time, stapled, stay messy and don't let the bullshit win. Tits up. Ears open and go build something. Incredible. Bye for now, friends.
